Chris Snuggs - Berners/Halls 58-65: There are some interesting things in the GUESTBOOK, for example: Mark Dempsey - Hansons 64-72: I thought it closed because Labour politicians thought it was elitist! David Waterhouse - Corners 58-61: Well, the ILEA was Labour-led from about 1970 until its demise in the 90s, so it's a more probable explanation than Eugene Albert's. Louis Parperis - Orwell 63-70: Effectively there was a prolonged two-prong attack, but the hard left faction in the ILEA was a toothless dog once its budgetary capability was eroded to meaninglessness by central government in the mid-80s, prefacing the bizarre Tebbit-Heseltine alliance which brought about the abolition of the ILEA in 1988 with a two year rundown period. As with every major issue, you have to follow the money which was controlled ultimately by the Cuntservatives. It was always the Tories that tried to close it down. Many questions by right wing MPs The final straw came with the abolition of The ILEA which made education the responsibility of each borough. Labour Islington applied to keep WH open, with the support of Southwark and Lambeth, both Labour, they wanted to accept the same intake, but Heseltine and Thatcher insisted that if any borough took over WH they could only provide education for students from their own borough, because that is what their council tax paid for. I shall never forget Sir Gerald Nabarro in parliament saying that "it costs more to send these sweepings from the streets of the slums of London, than it does to send my son to Harrow" This got worse, and racist when the school became Comprehensive. "The black sweepings from the slums of Brixton" was the phrase used. Not by a Labour politician. Michael Handley - Hansons 51-56: Having lived in NZ since 1974, I was unaware of these comments regarding WH particularly the one from Gerald Navarro. What a disgusting thing to say about ordinary boys whose circumstances were irrelevant and not only that but untrue. I'm proud to be an old boy of WH and believe that my time there made me better understand the things that were and still are wrong with our society. Go WH! Barry Clark - Hansons 58-65: It went when the ILEA as abolished by Thatcher: a two-pronged attack as Mark Dempsey correctly says. Chris Snuggs: Thank you Louis: information I will recycle. But I have one question: Once it became comprehensive, was it in any way economically viable as an 11 to 18 school give its size and the impossibility of enlarging it? By "economically viable" I mean not exaggeratedly more expensive per boy than the average school. Incidentally, I have always been interested as to why Wymondham College has survived and we not. It is I believe a boarding school though may have day-pupils, too. However, it is today much bigger than we ever were, but I am not sure about 40 years ago. According to Wiki there are 1,262 pupils currently. IHS seems to have 450 pupils at present, though of course it is a different animal and only viable because they bus their kids in. I don't dispute the nastiness of many Tories (or their idiocy), but that does not mean that ALL their arguments were wrong. Had WHS been financed in a way to enable it to continue, what would have been the cost per pupil compared to the average? David Waterhouse: Has to have been the evil Tory Scum - they eat babies, you know . . . Chris Snuggs: "The Spectator", but you have to subscribe: Perhaps it is time to draw together all the evidence and provide a definitive answer to this. As far as I know - which could well be false: 1) As far as I know ILEA was run at the end of the 80s by Labour. Ray Brady - Orwell 79-83: And if you notice, education has been dumbed down - cannot understand why grammar schools were scrapped for the masses, no disrespect meant to the last years of old boys, but the school was labeled as dumping ground, which was a shame. Between the Tories and Labour they ruined what was a fantastic opportunity for lads who couldn't get an Eton type education. Saying that my experience at Woolvo was shite, but the education I got there - and not just academic - has got me through life at difficult times. The governments of the 70's and 80's and up to now are all fuckwits. Shame Mr Richardson’s replacement couldn't keep up with his standards; personally, I blame the downfall on WH down to the board of governors and Richard Woollett; they allowed the dictates of the majority to be the downfall for the minority. What Woolvo produced over the years was a success for the minority which was taken away by the 1% ers. Chris Snuggs: Some good points, but I don't think Dick Woollett could have done anything about it, and am absolutely certain that he would have tried everything he could think of to save the school. As far as I can see, this would be a precis of the reasons for closure: Gerry Warren - Berners 65-72: I think that about sums it up;the school was a victim of its own success. It was disliked by both left and right for their own reasons. Chris Snuggs: The years just after the war saw more optimism, vision and political decency it seems to me (WHS and Smitherman were symbols of that ...). Possibly natural. In the war we really were "all in this together", but that gradually gave way to political and social division. But that's just my impression! Robin Sullivan - Hansons 50-55: Must agree with Michael, WS was fantastic, both educationally and sportive. Michael Handley: School isn't just to prepare for work but to give a perspective on the world and help understand that no matter how different we are outwardly we all have the same needs and desires. Chris Snuggs: The heavy emphasis on teamwork was a huge part of it, and not just in sport. The point we also grasped (even if half consciously) was that while there might be stars, everyone's part was vital, no matter how humble. One teacher I appreciated more after school than while there was Ernie Green, the art master from 58 to 65. He was very modest and self-effacing, a kind and gentle chap, but the work he did on music and drama sets was astonishing - and kind of taken for granted. |
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REPLY 1: Yes, what a wonderful school it was and you are right about it being like Narnia. My name is Edmund and I attended the school myself and was lucky enough to finish my education there before the closure. I think at the time we all understood that the conservatives did not like the fact that a great deal of money was being spent on educating working-class kids from inner city London. Like you say it helped a lot of disadvantaged kids find a path in society which would otherwise have been denied them. I know the huge difference the school made to my life and education: it helped me to go places I would not have been able to step in without that background. It gave me the language and the confidence to converse with people from all classes and walks of life. The number of successful people that passed through the gates of Woolverstone shows what a good school it was. | REPLY 2: Strange, I do not detect a political bias to Woolverstone as you have described. I recall the malaise began with the destruction of the LCC to be replaced by the GLC, a Labour tactic that led to the dissolution of identity with local government and the redistribution of seats to the advantage of Labour, so we might start there when Ken Livingston was a councillor with St Pancras before finding his launch pad with Camden. It was not the Conservatives who wished to abolish grammar schools but Labour, and it was that that changed Woolverstone. |